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Takashi Miike 3:19 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

SB, just had a look at Cousins contract. The earliest they can move him where it doesn't cost a fortune is 2027, where the cap hit will be $12.5m. That means Penix is possibly sitting for three years, madness

Takashi Miike 3:13 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

SB, no problem with Penix, he's a good player and a few teams wanted him. it just makes no sense if you've invested that much in Cousins. JJ is a better comp, is three years younger and was still on the board. Absolute mental cunts

southbankbornnbred 3:07 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

I'd even consider asking for a trade.

Not because of the competition - that's fine - but because you couldn't trust the people running the franchise, the GM, the coaches etc. How can Cousins trust a word they say in future? Not a great start to his Atlanta career!

southbankbornnbred 3:03 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

Let me be clear, though: I have no problem with NFL teams drafting high-pick QBs when they already have a clear starter. Especially when that starter is 35 years-old etc.

In my view, sides should draft a QB that can spend some time on the sidelines learning from the starter, getting to know the playbook and getting some proper professional coaching.

I don't like this modern obsession with picking high-pick QBs and throwing them straight in as starter - with everything at the franchise hanging on them.

The Falcons have picked a guy to become their "future" QB. No problem.

BUT...

IF you're going to take that approach, you should tell you newly signed 35 year-old starter (on a $180m 4-year contract) that's what you're going to do. Or, at least, that's what you might do if the right man is on the baord at the draft.

But failing to tell Cousins, who they've just signed expensively and who assumes he's their man...that's utterly shit. On every level.

I imagine Cousins was told he was #1 choice at QB, would be a multi-year starter etc etc. He could have gone elsewhere if he was told they'd draft a QB in the top ten.

I think it's fucking low for that reason alone. I'd be furious if I was Cousins and did not know that was happening.

southbankbornnbred 2:56 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

Hahaha! At least it's some other fans boo-ing at the draft. It's usually our lot!

Takashi Miike 2:51 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

video of the draft party at Falcons stadium as Penix is announced 😁

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B4KevDeoSvc

southbankbornnbred 12:26 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

Nubin, Hicks, Bullard, Bullock, Taylor, Tykee Smith...

Some will go in Rnd 2 and some will even drop to Rnd 3 or 4. Some teams are going to get bargains at safety tonight. I'd be focused on putting together my backfield combination for the next five years.

southbankbornnbred 12:16 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

I'd be fucking furious if I were Cousins.

zebthecat 12:13 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

The Penix thing is weird.
From what I read about the draft prospect QBs Michael Penix Jr appeared to be the most Kirk Cousins-a-like of all of them.
Someone who gets rid of the ball quickly, throws safely and doesn't take sacks.
Not surprised that Cousins is a bit miffed.

southbankbornnbred 12:13 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

The Eagles and Lions may well have picked up top-ten talent with picks #22 and #24 - purely because of the QB/offensive premium.

Those two corners have both looked very good at college. Different game in the pros, of course.

A more rational draft (does not exist!) would have had three or so defensive players going in the top 10 this year.

southbankbornnbred 12:08 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

Massively distorted first round - probably the most overspent first round in decades, because of the QBs.

But still some real talent drafted. I like Odunze - he has the potential to be a very solid and consistent WR if he's coached well (could say that about many rookies, of course). So the Bears had a good day with Williams at #1 and his future primary target in the same draft.

Don't know about Daniels and Maye at #2 and #3: both talented, but going in those positions seems like the QB premium in action. Likewise, Penix, McCarthy and Nix.

Some of those QBs will do well, don't get me wrong, but each of them carries a risk if they're not well looked after and coached - and there were more 'NFL ready' players on the board at the time (like Alt and Latham).

But the biggest surprise was no defensive player taken until the Colts with pick #15. That is a bit nuts. It means there are still some rich pickings for defensive players in Rnd2 - especially at cornerback and safety. Not a single safety taken in Rnd1, and yet there are some good, mobile and hard-hitting backfield players in the draft.

There is a lot to compete for tonight and I'd expect to see a fair bit of trading. Although the Jets don't currently have a Rnd 2 pick - so we're out of that for now.

A shrewd team/GM could pick up some absolute bargains tonight - even if they overspend in a mad first round.

Oh dear 11:49 Fri Apr 26
Re: 2016 NFL Season

what a fuck up - The most used sentence in Washington in perpetuity!!

Good Luck to Jaydon Daniels, I hope you fare better than our last five 1st Round QB picks.

I'm sure Patrick Ramsey played for more teams than games started for the 'skins

Takashi Miike 11:20 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

we had twenty five years of that penix type shit, when snyder was the owner. I like him michael, but you've just commited 130m on a quarterback and draft another one at 8, and an older model at 24? mccarthy at 21 would have made some sense learning behind kirk, but it shows the mixed thinking at some franchises

I watched a video of terry mclaurin's draft call again yesterday just to see if my memory wasn't tricking me when I thought I'd remembered snyder jumping in on the call. yes, he even had to be involved with a third round pick

southbankbornnbred 11:02 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

Odd trade by the Vikings, too, to come up one pick and give us 4th and 5th rounders.

We were not going to draft JJ McCarthy (decent QB though he is). Clearly a bluff, or another team offering to trade up.

Still, we needed picks. Now we’ve got them.

southbankbornnbred 10:57 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

Crazy first round!

Six QBs in the first 12 picks is bonkers.

But we got the O-lineman we needed. Alt was always going to be off the board by the time we picked, so Fashanu was probably the right choice for us.

Now we have some depth at tackle. But the coaches need to get to work.

Takashi Miike 9:37 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

from wiki.............

"On April 25, 2024, the Falcons drafted quarterback Michael Penix Jr. with their first-round selection (eighth overall) in the 2024 NFL Draft. The Falcons did not notify Cousins or his agent of the decision until they were on the clock with their pick.[189]"

😂

Takashi Miike 9:37 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

RBshorty 5:52 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

6 QB’s in the first 12 picks.!

Mental.

RBshorty 5:10 Fri Apr 26
Re: NFL (since 2016)

With the no6 pick of the 2024 draft. The New York footballing Giants pick. Malik Nabers. WR. LSU.

BOOM.!!!!!

southbankbornnbred 8:55 Thu Apr 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)

I'm sanguine, though.

If we take Bowers at #10, then we have a primary TE as well as an excellent lead WR (Wilson) for Rodgers to aim for next season.

We just have to patch up the line in those circumstances.

It's all or nothing for Rodgers next year, so he'll be asking for targets.

southbankbornnbred 8:53 Thu Apr 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)

TM - I agree. I think the Jets should trade out #10 and drop down the 1st round, picking up a 2nd in the process (we don't have a Rnd2 at the moment).

Then take the top guard on the board, and give yourself a high second rounder.

Bowers looks good for a receiving tight end, no question. But we need an O-line to protect Rodgers - or he's not throwing to anybody.

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